To impress upon an interviewer just how necessary it is to maintain vigilance against check fraud, Frank San Pedro borrows a line from Jules Verne's From Here to the Moon, a book he read as a teenager.

"Jules Verne says that there is a perennial contest between those who build the fortifications and those who build the cannon," San Pedro says. "Fraud is by and about professionals who want to hurt you with stronger cannon. We need stronger walls."

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